Gettin' something off my chest

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 07/03/2014 at 12:30 • Filed to: mini rant.

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I hate the term "mall crawler" or "mall rated"

Yeah, I get it; lots of people buy capable vehicles for the purpose of posing or appearing adventurous or maybe just because its en vogue. Here is the thing though, If Jesse Owens wants to take a leisurely stroll around a duck pond, he's still Jessie Owens. Can we stop bagging on the car and start sending our indignation to the owners of said vehicles who refuse to enjoy the capability built into these vehicles? Even a mildly capable off roader can still kill it with the right attitude.

yamahog > HammerheadFistpunch 07/03/2014 at 12:36

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Can we stop bagging on the car and start sending our indignation to the owners of said vehicles who refuse to enjoy the capability built into these vehicles?

I thought that was already the case...

Nibby > HammerheadFistpunch 07/03/2014 at 12:37

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SRS OFFROADING YO CHECK OUT MY 4WD BRO TRUCK

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > HammerheadFistpunch 07/03/2014 at 12:38

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While I understand that every driver has their own vehicle preferences, the fact that someone chooses a vehicle that is harder to control and can cause more damage to others on what is basically a whim is not something I could ever agree with.

HammerheadFistpunch > yamahog 07/03/2014 at 12:39

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The term is almost always in reference to the car. i.e. thats just a mall crawler, oh that jeep is mall rated. We need a better term that applies clearly to the driver. "oye, that blokes a joey" or "hey look, someone from vermont" you know, something universal.

HammerheadFistpunch > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 07/03/2014 at 12:40

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I think you are grossly oversimplifying the situation. I don't like an unused 4x4 just as much or more than the next guy, but its a damn good thing Jeep sells so many wranglers to posers, cause it means they keep building it and it keeps getting better.

yamahog > HammerheadFistpunch 07/03/2014 at 12:52

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Idk, a lot of Jeep groups I frequent are full of people whining about other people doing the wrong things to/with their Jeep. The Wrangler or XJ itself is capable out of the box, no one's questioning that.

yamahog > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 07/03/2014 at 12:54

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While I understand that every driver has their own vehicle preferences, the fact that someone chooses a vehicle that can go much faster than the speed limit and can cause more damage to themselves on what is basically a whim is not something I could ever agree with.

Not that I agree with that example, but yours can go both ways.

trynthink > HammerheadFistpunch 07/03/2014 at 12:56

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The risk is that in selling so many Wranglers to posers is that those posers come to Jeep focus groups and complain about the NVH and poor handling, encouraging them to make design changes that perhaps improve the on-road performance at the direct expense of off-road capability or aftermarket modification (see e.g. IRS in '15 Mustang).

Dusty Ventures > HammerheadFistpunch 07/03/2014 at 12:59

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What about the ones that are built to look like big, capable, SUVs but in reality can't handle a grassy knoll?

HammerheadFistpunch > trynthink 07/03/2014 at 13:01

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I can tell you from the chats I've had with Jeep engineers...they are very aware of who the key market is for the wrangler...they aren't going to be dumbing it down anytime soon.

HammerheadFistpunch > Dusty Ventures 07/03/2014 at 13:01

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Still the owners faults.

Dusty Ventures > yamahog 07/03/2014 at 13:04

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Speaking of which, I had a set of unused 33 inch desert race tires I wanted to sell because they were too small for the new truck. These tires retail at $500 each new. Guy with a red Jeep on stock lift says he's interested and wants to see them/try putting them on his Jeep. Sure, why not? While he's putting one of the tires on he tells me he's never been off road, never intends to be off road, and just wants them "for the look." Top end performance desert race tires, for the look. I talked him out of the sale because the tires deserved better.

HammerheadFistpunch > Dusty Ventures 07/03/2014 at 13:12

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Still got 'em?

Dusty Ventures > HammerheadFistpunch 07/03/2014 at 13:19

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Nope. Sold them with my previous truck.

HammerheadFistpunch > Dusty Ventures 07/03/2014 at 13:22

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dern!

unpredictable_swerve > HammerheadFistpunch 07/03/2014 at 14:37

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I thought it was "Web Wheeler"?

HammerheadFistpunch > unpredictable_swerve 07/03/2014 at 14:38

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Hadn't heard that one. It's a mouthful but it does the trick.

unpredictable_swerve > HammerheadFistpunch 07/03/2014 at 15:03

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about the same as mall crawler. Usually reserved for forums and such. Poser comes to mind as well.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > HammerheadFistpunch 07/03/2014 at 21:13

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Yes, but what about some two-bit half-wit that hits someone with his Jeep and kills them? And it would be for no better reason than because he wants to look cool, brah.

Nathan > yamahog 07/11/2014 at 16:49

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Agreed. Whenever I've made this comment it was ALWAYS directed at the owner, never the vehicle. The vehicle is just the innocent victim of someone's preferences.

Also, while I may find a mall crawler stupid, it's their money and their vehicle. To each their own.